SG Homicide Frankentar

[beerbelly]

This is a fascinating story; any updates?

 

[Chips]

Thank and thanks for asking.
My uncle was a collector and a hoarder so I had mountains of stuff to go through. Still working on selling off all the stuff and reclaiming my shop before i can get to work on that SG.
Just this weekend I found a box of documents that had all his receipts for gear from the 70's. In there was the fender blender receipt, manual, and pristine wiring schematic...and maybe the warranty card. I still plan on making it work...now more than ever. I just have to get rid of all the other stuff and that is taking a lot of time.

Stay tuned though....I am going to make it work!

 

[ruster1]

Thank and thanks for asking.
My uncle was a collector and a hoarder so I had mountains of stuff to go through. Still working on selling off all the stuff and reclaiming my shop before i can get to work on that SG.
Just this weekend I found a box of documents that had all his receipts for gear from the 70's. In there was the fender blender receipt, manual, and pristine wiring schematic...and maybe the warranty card. I still plan on making it work...now more than ever. I just have to get rid of all the other stuff and that is taking a lot of time.

Stay tuned though....I am going to make it work!

Lots of us collectors and hoarders out there.. cant seem to throw anything out for fear we might need that for a new upcoming build.. or maybe that $ 5.00 part is the reason for a new project.. lol.. good luck to you.. enjoy the process.. sometimes those times going through the hoard can find some wonderful information and insight.. take you time..

 

[PermissionToLand]

It looks pretty well done, but I suspect it could have been done at a later date without actually removing the neck.

Here's some photos of my Junior neck pocket if that might help locate the tenon; it looks like the tenon is the same width as the neck:

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Your Junior is a pre-1966 model, so it has a completely different heel/tenon design.

There seriously doesn't seem to be a tenon.... wtf?

There is, it's just under the fretboard and doesn't extend beyond it.



To the OP: here is a stock 1970 pickup cavity route:



And a better angle on this modified one:

So the holes are original. Whether they are for dowels or something else though, I don't know.

 

[Chips]

Your Junior is a pre-1966 model, so it has a completely different heel/tenon design.



There is, it's just under the fretboard and doesn't extend beyond it.

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To the OP: here is a stock 1970 pickup cavity route:

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And a better angle on this modified one:

So the holes are original. Whether they are for dowels or something else though, I don't know.

Looks like what I'm dealing with so very good to know it is factory. Now just need to find someone that knows what those dang dowels are doing there. Or....If you have a moment please go ahead and pull that neck off and send some pictures of how it goes

 

[PermissionToLand]

Looks like what I'm dealing with so very good to know it is factory. Now just need to find someone that knows what those dang dowels are doing there. Or....If you have a moment please go ahead and pull that neck off and send some pictures of how it goes

Those aren't my guitars in the pictures. Just by the look of it, they seem spaced far enough apart that they wouldn't be touching the tenon. But it's hard to say.

Hey, I finally found a good dead-on picture of it:

So yeah, they sure seem to be dowels. They could just be there to strengthen that part of the body, which is naturally weak.

 

[Chips]

You inspired me to take another look at that neck removal! I found the neck crack has opened a bit, I'd guess from environment change. Really though the neck is just fine. It is the sides to the pocket that are split from the body.

I can see those dowels do in fact run up into the neck and are the only reason it didn't snap off completely when it cracked. Seems like a longer beefier screw on the strap button from the factory would have eliminated many of the neck issues seen in these things.

If I didn't need the neck off for other reasons I would make that fix and not worry even a little about it. I may end up doing that anyway and approach the body work differently if I can't get a clean separation. Would much rather do that work in two pieces though.

 

[Decadent Dan]

.. or maybe that $ 5.00 part is the reason for a new project.. lol..

I can give away a $5 part that cost me $20 and still save $$

 

[Chips]

I can give away a $5 part that cost me $20 and still save $$

Certainly the case in many situations. With my uncle he had no cost to store stuff so he stuffed everything to the ceiling...until the city came and cited him for it. Now it cost me $15K to throw away all the junk he wouldn't but on the positive side now I have this relic and components to entertain me. I guess it still didn't cost him.

 

[Decadent Dan]

Certainly the case in many situations. With my uncle he had no cost to store stuff so he stuffed everything to the ceiling...until the city came and cited him for it. Now it cost me $15K to throw away all the junk he wouldn't but on the positive side now I have this relic and components to entertain me. I guess it still didn't cost him.

Ouch..
You could hang it on the wall and tell everyone it’s worth $15K