SG Measurements

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  1. slabcut

    slabcut New Member

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    I made a drawing, this should be the early SG headstock

    the position of the crown inlay seems to be sometimes lower, sometimes higher

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  2. slabcut

    slabcut New Member

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    I think that´s wrong. The headstock compares to a reissue headstock from 2002

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    early 60ties headstocks look different

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    slabcut New Member

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    [​IMG]

    If I can believe this article, the early SG headstock should look more like this

    the length of 173 to 175 mm of the Les Paul Standard headstock
    the added width should result in about 78 to 80 mm at the bottom and about 82 to 84 mm at the top


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    Now I think I´m still in the begining to find the right measurements
     

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  4. slabcut

    slabcut New Member

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    I read the following in the Les Paul Forum: "No, the '61 RI SGS have a larger-than correct headstock. The SG/LPs are closER to what it should be."

    Historic SG/Les Paul vs. SG '61 Reissue (Headstock) - Les Paul Forum

    this is interesting, too

    http://www.everythingsg.com/forum/tone-zone/14943-gibson-sg-61-ri-headstock-size-measures.html

    or this

    "My '62 SG special headstock : 2 15/16"
    My '63 SG standard: 3 7/32"
    Both measured across, from left top edge to right top edge."

    http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159151

    that are about 82mm for the ´63 Standard
     
  5. THEBIGOLDDIRTYBIRD

    THEBIGOLDDIRTYBIRD New Member

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    Slabcut, I'm in the same boat as you looking for dimensions of these things. If you figure out the headstock bits please share. The reissues although good looking are way off shape wise. After comparing pictures of vintage LPC and SG headstocks for some time I can't figure wether they are the same shape or not. Measurement data is all over the place as well. The jr plan posted above for the body looks spot on though. The headstock is the problem. On LP replicas it seems to also be a common issue.
     
  6. sgtbeefheart

    sgtbeefheart Well-Known Member

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    At the risk of confusing matters even more, my '67 Jr.,

    Top 80mm
    Bottom 72mm
    Length 180mm
    Nut 40mm (1 10/16th)

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  7. THEBIGOLDDIRTYBIRD

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    I sketched this out the old fashioned way with what info I could find.
     

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    The PDF is too big to post. It's an "artist's impression" anyways. The curves were drawn using a 50's lp template as a guide.
     
  9. jonny

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    Hey everyone :wave:

    This is my first post here, but I've been hanging around for a while. I'm usually on MLP (I'm jonny there as well). Hopefully you don't mind me brining up an old thread.

    I'm working on turning Magnus' 3D model into a set of plans. Since they are for a Junior, I'm also gathering the info needed for an accurate plan of a Standard as well. A link to this thread was posted, and it has been a great help! :thumb:

    I just wanted to ask, everyone who was nice enough to measure the headstock, was the length measurement (~180mm) taken from the front or back of the nut.

    It would make sense that it would be the back, but I really don't like the larger headstock, so I'm secretly hoping that it's the front. :fingersx:

    Thanks in advance for any replies.
     
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    sgtbeefheart Well-Known Member

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    I did mine from the back.

    I'd like to add that my nut width measurement came from an
    online mm to ins converter, and I think it's officially 1 11/16th
     
  11. THEBIGOLDDIRTYBIRD

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    The way I see it, it's about 180 mm from fretboard to the end of the headstock on the original sg stds. I've never played or held one though. 180 mm from nut to headstock end looked funny when I sketched it out. This is a scan of the final shape and measurements I came up with from photographic study. Sorry about the slop but it was a working copy. The pdf scan was too big to share so I jpegged it.

    Ignore the "inner" lines on the edges of the headstock. The "outer" ones are the "right ones".
     

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  12. THEBIGOLDDIRTYBIRD

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    Jonny, I'm working on a sg standard build by the way based on the Magnus plan. It's been a pain to try to reverse engineer the specs of the standard from only photos but the Magnus is an amazing help on the body shape. If someone posted accurate scans of the pickguard, backplate and control cavity I would pee myself with joy. -Matt
     
  13. slabcut

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    I finished one from the plans

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    How'd I miss this thread?

    The guitar came out very nice. Magnus's CAD drawing is great. I'm in the middle of a couple of build using that same drawing as a reference.


    :applause:
     
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