SG with side output jack? What is it?

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  1. trapdoorspider

    trapdoorspider Member

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    This 1986 SG turned up on eBay, and the seller says it is a "61 Reissue" model. In fact, he says that 1986 is the year Gibson first introduced the 61 Reissue. Is that true?

    The most unusual features are the edge-mounted output jack, and the odd location of the pickup selector switch.

    And yes, it does have a small pickguard. But it doesn't have the "stepped" neck/body joint like a 61 Reissue. On this one the neck blends smoothly into the body contour on both sides.

    I think this is an SG Standard, but I've never seen a Standard (or a 61 Reissue either) with a side-mounted jack.

    Also note the trapezoid inlays. Were those used on Standards in 1986?

    Of course, the key question is: When WAS the 61 Reissue introduced?

    So ... what IS this thing?

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  2. Txicpizza72

    Txicpizza72 New Member

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    hmm..all I can add so far, is (from my knowledge,after studying photos when googling) ,that during 1970-85 the standards had the "mini-blocks" inlays. The trapezoids seems to appear on the standards during 1985..(..and still with the small pickguard)..and I belive in 1991,the standards got back to the 1967-1969-type of styling (with the large batwing) ...and till today !
     
  3. theNARDdog9

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    I think 86 was the first year of the '62 RI SG/Les Paul. Not sure when the '61 RI began, but I believe that there is a '62 RI
     
  4. Dave

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    That IS NOT a 62 reissue.
    It is an SG Standard of that era. I used to have one in yellow many years ago.
    As already mentioned, note where the neck/fretboard joins the body & the output jack location.
    The neck heel is much larger than a reissue.
    Also note the PU selector and PU locations.


    Compare it to my 1986 62 Reissue.
    And yes, 86 is the first year of the 62 Reissue but that guitar is not one.

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  5. stdio

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    Yes, '86 was the first year for the guitar that became the '61 reissue.

    I have a '86 also, it's actually the first Gibson I fell in love with, after having a late-90's '61 reissue and an LP Classic years ago. (I also had a '69 SG Standard, back when I was a kid, but the neck was this huge tree trunk monster....)

    The '61 reissue model was called the SG reissue for (I think) just the first couple years, then the SG-62 until '91. Then in '93, it became the '61 reissue.

    (this is an old link I have) ---
    Vintage Gibson Guitars: Gibson SG Les Paul Standard

    Dave, I think you posted some info about ABR-1 on the '61 reissue the other day. I don't have an authoritative website on '61 reissue features to point to, but 2003 was the last year for ABR-1s on it. Years of ebay searching has proven it to me as well.
     
  6. theNARDdog9

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    Hmm youre definitely correct. I spoke without really looking at the guitar closely. At second glance, I am quite sure I agree with you and that the OP seems to just have an 86 Standard.
     
  7. stdio

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    Here's a quick shot of my '86 SG:

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    Also, here's a scan of Gibson's SG-62 ad

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    Hello, if that shot of the SG-62 is straight from the '86 catalog, thanks for correcting the info. The website link in my earlier post has it just called the "SG reissue" initially. Another case of net misinformation I guess, which is sort of a problem these days.
     
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    sgtbeefheart Well-Known Member

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    No, it was originally just SG Reissue, the '62 was added later in '88.
     
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    I don't think 86 was the only year of SGs with side input jacks. I recently sold a 1990 SG STD with side input jack. Here is a pic of that SG

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    Didn't the Firebrands have that control arrangement?
    Both the SGs and the LPs?
     
  13. stdio

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    Then the point in the link is little misleading, the link

    SG Guitar Forum | 1986

    has the "SG-62" as model designation for 1986. I'm probably reading too much into it though. It was probably called the "SG reissue" in 1986-87, with the official model designation being "SG-62". That would be true if that SG-62 pic is from the '86 catalog.

    Then, from 1988-91 they started calling it the "SG '62 reissue", with the official model designation still being "SG-62".

    If that catalog link above is incorrect though, it might make sense to change it, it's from this site! :)
     
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    I believe '90-'92 SG Standards had side input jacks.
     
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    sgtbeefheart Well-Known Member

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    I should have specified the '86 "Reissue".
     
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    Here's The SG, 1979For Sale on craigslist, Modesto, Ca., USA
    1979 Gibson SG

    Note side output jack and aft mounted selector .
     
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    The SG-90 series 1988-1990: Singles, Doubles w/ choice of a string thru tailpiece, Steinberger or factory Floyd -- they all had side jacks ....
     
  18. Kirkw101

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    My 1983 sg standard has side jack as well.

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  19. Cooltouch

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    It's pretty is what it is. I want it. :cool:
     
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  20. BlackSG91

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    Looks like the side-jack wasn't specified to any particular year. Now the question is, when was to idea of the side-jack implemented & what specific year? We see from this thread one as early as 1979 if I'm correct?:hmm:
     

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