SG's and darkness

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  1. famousguy

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    The muddiest guitar i've ever heard is my stepbrother's les paul custom
     
  2. 68GibsonSG

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    i'd say SG is to Les Paul as Strat is to Tele

    the Tele and the LP have several things in common:
    1. They are both boat anchor
    2. They both sound like schlitz (muddy & dark)
    3. They are both firewood
     
  3. Hard2Hear

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    Apparently you've never played a Telecaster? :)

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    :shock: Awfully harsh on the Tele 68GSG!
     
  5. Voxman

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    Where do they get this dark thing from? :roll: I wish my 61' was dark...those paf's chime! ? :?
     
  6. Strange Brew

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    whaat? muddy and dark??? :lol: you ever picked up a Tele? :D :D :D

    or maybe you thought the "Muddy Waters" Tele was referring to the sound? :) :)
     
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    The Tele is the classic "country twang" guitar,no darkness in 'em! 68GSG's must've been a Squier or sumptin'.
     
  8. Hard2Hear

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    Every Tele I have owned can be described as PIERCING...which is why I usually only own them for a couple months at a time. I always forget I don't like playing Tele's. They give me headaches. But I end up forgetting and buying another one, and then the cycle starts all over again.

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  9. Strange Brew

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    "Piercing" is what they do.... even with humbuckers. The only one i've met that doesnt, is the Rosewood Tele. But dark and muddy it ain't...
     
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    I think he was talking about my Tele-phone connection...
     
  11. CharlieB

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    A good Tele is bright, not piercing. My 52ri is very mellow for a Tele. Tele-Thinline guitars are quite warm, even with the "tele" pickup. Perhaps some side factor from the design is that Tele's seem very pickup particular, and the wrong pickups will absolutely devistate the Tele tone.

    It should be bright, not overly so. It should also have warmth on the neck pickup. That bridge pickup ought to quack and you ought to be able to play Marlboro Country riffs on it - that diggin in western country wound-string twang - ought to be clear, deep and tight. When you play both pickups, it should be very neutral sounding. The Tele neck pickup, with its finer 43 gauge wire should be toned very smooth, warm and jazzy... still an edge of brightness, but not much.
     
  12. jigman

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    True. But I'm still exceptionally glad I traded my 2000 52RI for a 2004 STD SG. Wanted to like that axe-but never really did. It did teach me how to play differently though and for that I'm grateful. I suffered with that darn axe long enough. Now I'm in SG heaven and recently, Breedlove Revival DR-prototype heaven too. My wife bought me a Breedlove acoustic Dreadnought thats just unbelievable
     
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    well i did go a little over board they both are boat anchors but i think its the telecaster special that is the dark one, i should have been more specific, i think its the one that has the strat 70's style headstock, (or maybe the squire one) but i kno one does sound like schlitz (sorry) and i only say they're both fire wood because i'm not really into boat anchor guitars
     
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    Love those tele neck pickups from day one........And sadily I've heard a lot of Shrill tele Bridge pickups, the Broadcaster being my all time favorite
     
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    Both my SGs are very dark. Black that is.
     
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    maybe '68 got hold of a bad example. have you played a lot of em '68??
     
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    Tony Iommi got some dark sounds outta his but only through Drop D Tuning and either unhooking or completely removing his neck pup.That makes me wonder what an Iommi pickup in a SG Jr or Sg-X would sound like? :twisted:
     
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    When I talk about guitars being dark or bright, it is always acoustically. It all has to do with the wood. Once you factor in pickups and amp, it pretty much all goes out the window. The base is there, but the contributing factors of the pickups and amp are greater IMO.
     
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    Actually, his neck pickups do work. He DID disconnect the tone controls, but that would definitely move it away from "dark"..........
     
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    I don't think having the neck disonnected would really affect brightness/darkness of tone in the bridge pickup anyway. Would it? My SG-X (with a JB) is fairly dark when clean, but I think that's because they came with 300k pots stock. i'm changing out the tone for a 500k.
     

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