So not everyone hates Richlite...

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  1. SG standard

    SG standard Well-Known Member

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    ...and he's getting some great sounds out of that SG. Incidentally, he does some interesting teaching videos too.
     
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    Richlite makes a great fretboard... but there is nothing wrong with preferring ebony either. Just know what you are getting and enjoy it!
     
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    chilipeppermaniac Well-Known Member

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    I bought a used Midtown Custom once. It had the Richlite on it and that was the first time I heard of that stuff. I wound up taking it back and buying an SG Faded Standard that they had at the same store and got a refund of over $700 back from the Midtown. The MT was a nice guitar though.
     
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    I love this SG Custome but I don' t need an other SG ...
     
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    If no one told you would you care? Wood products are a great source of housing, furniture and musical instruments. They are made from trees, a renewable, but not inexhaustible resource. Laminates are stronger than solid woods. Pressure treated products such as Richlite, Micarta, etc. are as had as it gets and can be colored any way you want.
    I would love a black Les Paul Custom with an Oxblood colored fretboard.
     
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  6. Goldtone

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    Put me in the hate Richlite group
     
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    Only problem is that it looks too perfect. Would i own one, sure.
     
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    SG standard Well-Known Member

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    All good points. The author of the video is obviously an accomplished player, and seems a good teacher (I've watched a few of his videos before, they're worth checking out). Now you never know how much something is 'click bait', but he gives the impression he loved the guitar, then was put off by discovering it was Richlite - until he recognised he loved the guitar regardless. Now he's a happy owner.

    I've owned two Gibsons with Richlite, and would be happy to own a third. I've also owned a few guitars with ebony boards, and it's fair to say it's my favourite material. But I also had a made-to-order guitar arrive in a heatwave with a cracked ebony board - goodness knows what heat it had encountered in the van. So I appreciate the durability of Richlite, and the fact that it's use doesn't deplete the dwindling stocks of ancient trees.
     
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    I have a Hagström Ultra Swede with a ‘resinator’ wood fretboard. It’s a composite and may be exactly the same as Richlite, not sure. I find no difference when playing it at all. I didn’t even notice until I read the specs after I bought it. Hagstöm claim it eliminates dead spots. I wouldn’t worry about Richlite myself.

    P.S. The Ultra Swede is a cool guitar, check one out if you get a chance.

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    I have guitars with rosewood, ebony, maple, and richlite fretboards. They all play just fine.
     
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    Personally, for me it's a non-issue.
    I feel that if you play well, a Richlite fretboard won't hurt you any...
    And if you don't play well, the costliest virgin ebony fretboard won't help you much.

    I have guitars with maple one-piece neck and fretboard (Fender) and with Mahogany neck and rosewood fingerboard, and with maple neck and rosewood fingerboard, I have a Gibson SG with a maple neck and a baked maple fretboard, and I have a Martin guitar with a laminated neck and a striped ebony fretboard.
    My most recent Gibson has a maple neck and a walnut fretboard.

    And you know what? They all render awesome tone. They all feel great to play. They were all designed
    by talented engineers and tested by musicians, because all my guitars were made by reputable makers.
    Gibson, Fender, Martin, Epiphone, Warmoth... sometimes when you go to a restaurant, you order something not because you know what it is, but because it's an interesting and reputable restaurant and you are
    curious. And you trust the chef.

    Anyway, I can't fuss about guitar makers substituting for disappearing tropical tone woods.
    It has to happen. If they put good engineers and designers to work on this problem, they'll
    make decent products for the musicians of the future.
    AND I believe it will make any of our traddie mahogany/rosewood/ebony guitars
    more valuable.
     
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    So a few people hate Richlite ...
    So a few people hate maple ...
    So a few people hate yellow...
    So a few people hate meat ...
    an the list goes on.
     
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    I can confirm this as fact.

    :smile:
     
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    P.S. The Ultra Swede is a cool guitar, check one out if you get a chance.

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    Also Hagstrom also makes a SG style guitar. Pat Smeer.jpg style guitar
     
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    the only reason i wanted a guitar with richlite / phenolic / whatever else its called is that they dont warp...
     
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    I have zero issues with Richlite. I have not owned one but the few that I played felt and looked awesome. I have a '79 Les Paul Custom with a piece of ebony that is black as can be and basically grainless, and it would be really hard to tell the difference between it and a Richlite 'board side by side.
     
  17. Goldtone

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    this is interesting, are you living in a high humidity or extra dry environment?
     
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    ya, humidity in my room is now 73%...i've seen it drop to around 40-50%...
    tho i guess with more companies now doing 3-pc laminate necks...neck warp isnt really an issue anymore...

    but for guitars that i use often, i kinda just leave them on the stand...tho that doesnt help with the other issue of parts forming rust... :p
    kinda surprised the frets of my MIM strat had rust on them too...so now its mostly in the case...
    now i just have a cheap tanglewood travel acoustic lying around that i can just grab anytime...
     
  19. Goldtone

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    This is an exceptional reason to use richlite I’d never considered

    You can always learn something new!

    thanks for the insight

    totally agree it’s a better material in more extreme climates
     
  20. Slowery

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    I have an 2016 SG Supreme that has a richlite fretboard. I've been very satisfied with it. Very smooth and consistent look and feel. Very stable material. I see no negatives.
     
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