The Gibson SG: 50 Essential Facts

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  1. SG Lou

    SG Lou Moderator Staff Member

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    syscokid Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Lou... :h5:
     
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    Good stuff!:cheers:
     
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    Is this a fact?

    24. SG Standards also came in Pelham Blue as a limited 1960s run. Some guitarists say blue guitars are wrong: an SG in Pelham Blue is damn right.

    And this is just incorrect:

    43. The Short Lyre Vibrolas fitted to some early SGs operate completely differently to a Bigsby or Fender vibratos. The Lyre moves the strings from side-to-side. Original SGs with Lyres are highly collectible.



    We've had this sort of drivel from Gibson before. I reckon it's time they got an authority to write these articles instead of some PR hack!
     
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    Good read, thx :yesway:
     
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    Interesting read, thanks!
     
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    Great! Now in the unlikely event that I can afford a 60s SG, I'll know what to look for
     
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    I'll give them a pass on that. Pelham blue axes are sweet!
     
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    I've been thinking on this one. I'm beginning to think it is just very poorly worded.

    If you're wearing your SG and you look down at it, you will be seeing essentially a side view of the guitar. If you operate the vibrola, the string tension will be directly relaxed and tightened back and forth from one "side" (the nut) to the other "side" (the bridge).

    I realize the same back and forth is happening with the strings in the Bigsby and Fender, but I think the writer is trying to make a distinction between the direct action of the lyre's spring steel and the rolling action of the Bigsby and the pivoting action of the Fender bridge.

    Then again, I'm probably trying too hard to give Gibson the benefit of the doubt!

    As you were.
     
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    SG standard Well-Known Member

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    I think they're just referring to the early 'sideways' vibrato, and it is indeed poorly worded; meaning to say the vibrato arm moves from side to side, not the strings. :rolleyes: That's the real point of distinction between the early Gibson design and the Bigsby/Fender design, which are inherently different from each other in other respects.

    I think these 'facts' have been discussed before. I recall some talk about they way they credit Ted McCarty with the SG design, whereas he probably only approved it. No one really knows who designed it, but a few have suggested it was most likely Larry Allers, or someone under his supervision.
     
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    smitty_p Well-Known Member

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    Yeah...that does make better sense.
     
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    ah that explains the song "over under sideways down"!

    Damn my video dun broke down!
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    Good catch, thanks Raiyn..
     
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    That's broken... Try this
     
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    Nothing interesting or important in there. No research, no insight, just words, one following the other for no reason at all.

    But...but...Johnny Depp.

    Oh wait -- I don't give a rat's ass about Johnny Depp.

    P.
     
  15. Gibbo SG

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    Les Paul was photographed many times playing an SG. His were custom made. His and Mary's, both. I think Les loved the SG. Didn't look too pissed in the pictures of him playing them on his record covers. His name appeared on the SG for the first four years of SG production. I think Gibson took his name off to av I I'd having to pay Les Paul any money for the use of his name.
     
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    Except he didn't love the SG. In fact, in his later years, he went on record about it. He's quite diplomatic about it, but you can tell he didn't like it.

     

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