Trogly Buys Angus Young Signature Prototype

[MR D]

$100 for a Poker Chip from 1980, WTF ? UH, NO !!!! THATS JUST............NO !

 

[An Abiding Dude]

NICE ONE DUDE......did you get one of these 'ANGUS' Guitars ? IDK GIBSON USA WAS EVEN SELLING THEM BACK THEN.....too bad !!! These AC/DC SG's as well as the Iommi and Hendrix SG's will fetch a good $$$$ 25 years from now

IDK tho DUDE, I never want to buy a 'Players' spec'd. guitar.....if I get anything besides a GIBSON 'STANDARD' its going to have to have the specs I WANT on it, not someone else's specs, LOL !!!

BTW, did you ever find an acceptable Bill Ward CLONE ? that could be difficult...

No, I missed out. If I remember correctly I was playing a lot of bass in a Alice Cooper tribute group in the aughts (Dennis Dunaway is criminally underrated, one of my absolute favs), so buying new guitars wasn't on my radar. Then came the Johnny Cash tribute, so a Tele became a necessary armament. It's only last five years or so that I re-oriented on pretty much solely playing rock guitar and went bananas on a buying spree (the Covid lockdown didn't help) of guitars and building pedalboards.

The Sabbath tribute is limping along, got four players, but trying to corral four middle-aged guys into a coherent practice regimen always remains a challenge. Of course that didn't stop me from ordering a Jaydee Custom. They say it'll take 16 months to build and ship it to me, but I look at it as an exercise in patience.

 

[Sootio]

I've got a lot of respect for Trogly. He's doing pretty well in a very tough business. I watch his videos everyday because I freaking love guitars, and it's really cool to see the one offs that he comes up with. I would never buy a guitar from him because he's out of my league, but I can't begrudge his business model. I also think his playing has improved quite a bit.

 

[skelt101]

The Sabbath tribute is limping along, got four players, but trying to corral four middle-aged guys into a coherent practice regimen always remains a challenge. Of course that didn't stop me from ordering a Jaydee Custom. They say it'll take 16 months to build and ship it to me, but I look at it as an exercise in patience.

Be prepared to have your patience severely tested, Dude. I placed an order in December of 2019 and am still waiting. No word on the status of my order unless I contact them. And then it’s always something along the lines of, “Your order is well under way. We’ll send you some pictures next week.” I would still like the guitar I ordered, but am regretting paying it off in advance at this point…

 

[SGBreadfan]

+$65 shipping

I just looked, I thought surely you must be joking!

 

[An Abiding Dude]

Be prepared to have your patience severely tested, Dude. I placed an order in December of 2019 and am still waiting. No word on the status of my order unless I contact them. And then it’s always something along the lines of, “Your order is well under way. We’ll send you some pictures next week.” I would still like the guitar I ordered, but am regretting paying it off in advance at this point…

Yeesh. That's not encouraging, skelt. 36+ months and counting? That is a serious drag. Do they offer any reason why the guitar is being delayed? Are you tempted to ask for a refund?

 

[skelt101]

Yeesh. That's not encouraging, skelt. 36+ months and counting? That is a serious drag. Do they offer any reason why the guitar is being delayed? Are you tempted to ask for a refund?

To be fair, I haven’t asked for many specifics as to why my guitar has been delayed so much. However, some customer outreach would be nice, especially if the lead time has more than doubled. Multiple ETAs have come and gone, without an email from them unless I send one first. They did site COVID and supply chain delays, which was expected. The latest response I received mentioned health issues that John has been dealing with. In light of that information, I’m reluctant to send a WTF email. I haven’t really thought about asking for a refund because I really want this guitar to work out… Sorry for the thread high jack, but thought you might want a heads up.

 

[Dave]

An interesting little slice of Gibson history.

Cool video.
Thanks for sharing.

 

[Dave]

I think it's clear that he has a fairly large pile of cash from some resource and free time. I doubt that it's just from flipping guitars. It's not from just running a youtube channel except to the extent that he uses it to promote guitars he's selling.

I"ve heard that he has money from a trust fund.
Heard it on the internet so take it for what it's worth.

 

[MR D]

No, I missed out. If I remember correctly I was playing a lot of bass in a Alice Cooper tribute group in the aughts (Dennis Dunaway is criminally underrated, one of my absolute favs), so buying new guitars wasn't on my radar. Then came the Johnny Cash tribute, so a Tele became a necessary armament. It's only last five years or so that I re-oriented on pretty much solely playing rock guitar and went bananas on a buying spree (the Covid lockdown didn't help) of guitars and building pedalboards.

The Sabbath tribute is limping along, got four players, but trying to corral four middle-aged guys into a coherent practice regimen always remains a challenge. Of course that didn't stop me from ordering a Jaydee Custom. They say it'll take 16 months to build and ship it to me, but I look at it as an exercise in patience.

WOW, R U getting 'the OLD BOY'

Yeesh. That's not encouraging, skelt. 36+ months and counting? That is a serious drag. Do they offer any reason why the guitar is being delayed? Are you tempted to ask for a refund?

DUDE, that sounds? MAYBE..... NOT GOOD .......AT ALL......DUDE, Ya gotta figure that John Diggins is somewhere in his 70's by now ? After 'J.D.' is gone, is getting a Guitar from Jay-Dee Guitars going to be the same ? Should be, eh? ORVILLE GIBSONs been gone for 100+ years (?). BUT......

IDK, I had been considering a JAY-DEE for quite a while but bought the GIBSON FLYING V 70's Tribute instead.

 

[MR D]

He's a bit goofy at times, but he is very knowledgable, a self-taught Gibson historian if you will, especially about Les Pauls built in the last 30-odd years. Definitely an acquired taste, but once you get past the "he is who he is" conundrum, he's an entertaining distraction for 15 minutes of your time. As mentioned in my reply to Iaza616, his is more of a collector's channel rather than a player's channel and that won't appeal to everyone. There is a bit of vanity and false humility to him at times, I mean the guy must have at least several hundred-thousand dollars sloshing around that allows him to do what he does, but maybe he's gotten to the point where his YouTube channel is paying for itself? Which, in and of itself, would be rather impressive.

GOOD POINT DUDE.....I've heard that the avg channel gets $3-$5 per/1,000 views....so you gotta have some viewers to make any type 0f $$$$....depends on the channel too ????

Trogly should also just say "The electronics on this guitar all checked out to GIBSON specs." or whatever, as who really wants to watch a semi-decent version of whatever Trogly decides to play, LOL !?

 

[An Abiding Dude]

WOW, R U getting 'the OLD BOY'

DUDE, that sounds? MAYBE..... NOT GOOD .......AT ALL......DUDE, Ya gotta figure that John Diggins is somewhere in his 70's by now ? After 'J.D.' is gone, is getting a Guitar from Jay-Dee Guitars going to be the same ? Should be, eh? ORVILLE GIBSONs been gone for 100+ years (?). BUT......

IDK, I had been considering a JAY-DEE for quite a while but bought the GIBSON FLYING V 70's Tribute instead.

Well, since they can't get the Schaller 456 bridges anymore, I decided to get the JayDee Custom instead, not the Old Boy. A little bit fancier in the wood department if the photo is any indication.

Jaydee Custom

Jaydee Custom Basses and Guitars official site - Handmade custom built electric guitars and basses by UK luthier John Diggins

www.jaydeecustomguitars.co.uk

 

[skelt101]

Well, since they can't get the Schaller 456 bridges anymore, I decided to get the JayDee Custom instead, not the Old Boy. A little bit fancier in the wood department if the photo is any indication.

Jaydee Custom

Jaydee Custom Basses and Guitars official site - Handmade custom built electric guitars and basses by UK luthier John Diggins

www.jaydeecustomguitars.co.uk

What bridge did you go with, Dude? There’s a picture or two on Instagram of a JayDee Custom with a Kahler. I thought it looked pretty sharp:

 

[An Abiding Dude]

What bridge did you go with, Dude? There’s a picture or two on Instagram of a JayDee Custom with a Kahler. I thought it looked pretty sharp:

Well, I assumed I'd be getting a guitar similar to the one pictured on the website with a TOM bridge, but since you brought it up I just emailed Andrew at Jaydee and asked him about both build time (whether 16 months is a hard or a soft target) and whether we'd have a conversation about customizations, such as color schemes and bridge options. Thanks for the head's up getting me thinking about this stuff and I'll let you know what he says.

 

[JimH]

I do watch Trogly videos, but I always skip the playing demos. I take it for what it is, he's a dork who knows quite a bit about Gibson's recent history. He doesn't seem to have any interest in learning to play or work on guitars, but he does both in his videos. It's very cringey, but there is some good info and cool footage. I get nervous every time he picks up a screwdriver.

One of the "services" he offers is to buy a guitar for you, then he "reviews" it and takes it apart in a video. I can't imagine who would let him do that or why.

 

[An Abiding Dude]

What bridge did you go with, Dude? There’s a picture or two on Instagram of a JayDee Custom with a Kahler. I thought it looked pretty sharp:

Andrew got right back to me. Here's what he said:

It would be fair to say that we have fallen behind with our orders.

This is partly due to covid, but also the fact that Jaydee himself has had health issues which have resulted in a lot of lost production time.

However, we are currently undergoing a big reorganisation which will help us increase production and we are aiming to clear our order book by the end of this year thus eliminating the 16 month waiting time.

 

[skelt101]

Andrew got right back to me. Here's what he said:

It would be fair to say that we have fallen behind with our orders.

This is partly due to covid, but also the fact that Jaydee himself has had health issues which have resulted in a lot of lost production time.

However, we are currently undergoing a big reorganisation which will help us increase production and we are aiming to clear our order book by the end of this year thus eliminating the 16 month waiting time.

Andrew has always been very good at returning my emails as well. Let's hope he is correct that the reorganization will help get them back on track. Did you get into any discussion about hardware? I had purchased a Schaller 456 bridge and sent that in for JD to install. They are tough to find, but are out there.

 

[An Abiding Dude]

Andrew has always been very good at returning my emails as well. Let's hope he is correct that the reorganization will help get them back on track. Did you get into any discussion about hardware? I had purchased a Schaller 456 bridge and sent that in for JD to install. They are tough to find, but are out there.

You going for an Old Boy replica or just like the bridge?

 

[skelt101]

You going for an Old Boy replica or just like the bridge?

Both! I like the bridge, and I have an Old Boy on order (with some of my own specifications).

 

[PermissionToLand]

He's a bit goofy at times, but he is very knowledgable, a self-taught Gibson historian if you will, especially about Les Pauls built in the last 30-odd years. Definitely an acquired taste, but once you get past the "he is who he is" conundrum, he's an entertaining distraction for 15 minutes of your time. As mentioned in my reply to Iaza616, his is more of a collector's channel rather than a player's channel and that won't appeal to everyone. There is a bit of vanity and false humility to him at times, I mean the guy must have at least several hundred-thousand dollars sloshing around that allows him to do what he does, but maybe he's gotten to the point where his YouTube channel is paying for itself? Which, in and of itself, would be rather impressive.

I have a sneaking suspicion that he gets his info on SGs from the SG Wiki, though he never cites it. My issue with him is that he's very tonedeaf about value and seems to just go along with whatever crazy prices sellers dream up and treats it like that's the new market value just because somebody is asking for it. Not to mention I heard him say that Gibson was underpricing some guitar and they should charge more for it! It's nothing personal, but the inflation of the market by speculators and middlemen like him is an issue. Buying things just to flip them is a scummy business model IMO. It's hard enough for a kid to afford his dream Gibson as it is. I got lucky and scored a deal on mine. These days, I wouldn't stand a chance with all these flippers watching listings like hawks.