- Sep 19, 2019
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I'm not seeing this happen with my SG. My strings get changed at the first sign any are starting to die. BTW I'm using brass saddles (even though it was delivered with nylon- and believe it or not I still have the original saddles it was delivered with in 1967, in a plastic bag in the case- don't ask me why); seems like if anyone uses nylon, any sawing back and forth wouldn't cause any damage to stringsYou have. Every time you use the trem your strings scrape over the saddles. That causes premature wear of both string and saddle.
Hey friend! I had the same problem with my sg. So, through some observations on how the maestro vibrola works, I made this video explaining step-by-step how to solve the tuning instability! With me everything works perfectly, I hope I get the same result too!
May I also take the opportunity to opine that I personally wouldn't dare calling Don out on this or any other issue since I'm more than aware of the fact that he knows exactly what he's talking about. (as the lionpart of his +4000 posts in 9 years will show) This is why I myself take great care not to contradict the statements made by this honorable member, but rather chose to take the stand that in my personal experience there has never been any tuning issues despite that what he states may very well be correct. It's more of a complementary viewpoint, if you will.
So let's keep it civil, shall we, we're all friends here. (except for the multitude of people on my block list of course...)
The only bridge specific issue in tuning stability comes from bridge post hole tolerance being too big on some guitars so the bridge slides back and forth on the thumbwheels, not returning to the same spot, now out of tune.
this is 100% remedied with DOMED thumbwheels
Correct solution for tuning instability in Maestro trem is:
Properly maintained nut, lock string to bridge post by under wrapping with no more than once around the post/no string slack (see photo posted earlier by Cerebral Gasket), domed thumbwheels. Do those 3 things you have no issues[/QUOTE
You stated, "...lock string to bridge post..." . Did you mean, ...lock string to tuner post?
Goldtone, I'm going on 70 y.o., and been playing since I was 11, so I have managed to pick up some knowledge, made observations, and gained experience with respect to the guitar over 6 decades. The strings DO saw and grind over the saddles. It is observable and slightly audible. When the tremolo bar is used, the string tension changes and the strings move headstock-wise or tailpiece-wise. They move lengthwise over theoretically (and ideally) immoveable surfaces which are the bridge and saddles. However, the bridge is supported in the SG by 2 spindly, 1/8th inch diameter threaded bolts which are screwed down into the body mahogany. That fit should be tight. Onto those bolts are screwed knurled thumbwheels which are slightly domed, 2 to each bridge post, one above the other. Above those rest the bridge. The lower thumbwheels are intended to be flush with the pickguard (batwing, in my case), or body wood. Those serve to further stabilize the base of the bridge posts. The upper thumbwheels are intended to be used as elevators for the bridge/saddle unit to facilitate action adjustment. In the case of my SG, the 2 thumbwheels are actually together, down at the pickguard (my AVR2 TonePros locking bridge needs virtually no elevation to achieve the low action I prefer; no buzzing anywhere). However, for SGs which may need the bridge somewhat elevated to achieve good action, the elevation will provide slightly less perpendicular stability. In any case, the point is that Vibrola tremolos are crude and aren't intended to be used for divebombing. It is best used for subtle tremolo effects. For any guitar, the saddle notches as well as the nut slots should be finished by running abrasive cord through them to smooth the surfaces which contact the strings. Doing so will eliminate binding at the nut, and also virtually eliminate string breakage due to roughness or metal burrs at the saddles.Again, the strings are not sawing or grinding over the saddles.
Are you hearing the “ping, ping, ping” of the windings passing over the saddle?
You did observe on your ‘68 however that the bridge is pulled forward…by what? The strings of course. If they had been grinding back and forth on the saddle the bridge wouldn’t have moved, and of course you would hear the string pinging over the saddle through the amp
Goldtone, I'm going on 70 y.o., and been playing since I was 11, so I have managed to pick up some knowledge, made observations, and gained experience with respect to the guitar over 6 decades. The strings DO saw and grind over the saddles. It is observable and slightly audible.