Upgrade SG Spc headstock veneer?

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  1. bblooz

    bblooz Member

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    I was thinking of upgrading my headstock veneer on my '92 SG Special. I kinda like the look of the MOP logo and crown inlay. Is this a worthwhile endeavor? I realize it won't increase the value of my instrument, but I just like it, plus it will pair nicely with the ebony fret board and pearl dots on the guitar now. Thoughts?
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Not sure why you didn't get an SG Standard if you wanted the headstock inlays. Nothing wrong at all with the SG Special you have now. I favor those SG Specials with the ebony boards and have a couple of them. Maybe leave the headstock alone and install chrome pickup covers?

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  3. poppunk

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    I used to have fantasies about getting binding and inlays put on my 02 Special, because I really wanted those things for like forever. But the cost is stupid if I wanted someone who had experience doing them to do it, and they probably couldn't get the nitro along the binding to work out with everything that had to be done because the color of my Special (Teal Flip Flop) got lost in the 2010 Gibson Flood.

    And while I have some decent woodworking and guitar maintenance skills, my favorite guitar was not the right instrument to make my own first attempt, because I'm not going to do a great job on the first one, for sure.

    The remedy: I recently found the perfect Standard (used) and just bought it (it's Pelham Blue, still awesome for me). Everything about it is right on for me.

    If you like your Special I wouldn't mess with it. Other than changing out an ailing part or adding covers, if it works well I wouldn't mess with it.
     
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    AngelDeVille Well-Known Member

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    I don’t see any pictures of the offending 92 special....
     
  5. Col Mustard

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    Leave the SG special as it is, and save the money you'd spend
    on carving/chewing up the headstock. Look about for an SG with the
    inlays and features you want, and buy that. Keep saving your money
    while you look. The more money you save, the more likely you will be
    able to afford the perfect guitar. Then you'll have two, a plain
    one and a fancy one.

    Much better solution. Two SGs are always better than one...
    The SG special is one of the world's best guitars, as designed.
    The designers knew what they were doing. They did good!
    Keep it simple. Play it loud.

    Here's another alternative, if you are looking for a project:
    the "G style" guitar kit from StewMac. It's on sale now for like $259
    ($100 off) and you get everything you need to build your own SG
    just the way you want it. (except for the ebony headstock veneer and the
    MOP inlays... those would be extra)... StewMac sells those too.

    https://www.stewmac.com/Materials_a.../Guitar_Kits/G-Style_Electric_Guitar_Kit.html

    If I didn't already own a fine pair of SGs, I'd seriously consider building this kit. But I'm very happy with my two excellent SG specials. I decorated my plain
    headstocks with hand made ebony Truss Rod Covers, inlaid with Abalone
    and MOP. It's a fine subtle upgrade for a plain guitar, and cost about $35
    each.
    https://www.ebay.com/str/wectrussrodcoverinlay/Gibson/_i.html?_storecat=2914142016

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    Easy to do, just buy the one you want and screw it on...
    (I use black sheet metal screws, to avoid splitting the ebony).
    From the front, it looks like this:
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  6. Norton

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    You guys are a bunch of crabby party poopers. If someone wants a project or wants to do something unique to their guitar why drop a big stinky “NO” bomb on the party??

    With a little care and super basic tools and techniques this should be an easy and very successful project.

    If you find an overlay. It’s as simple as removing the existing headstock face, glue and clamp the new one on and finish it up.

    If you’re adding inlay to your existing headstock....It’s EASY. Just get the depth of your rout/cavity right. Slightly over size the inlay cavity and fill it with epoxy. If you’re going black a little charcoal ground up in the epoxy will make it invisible and PERFECT!!!
    Good luck and share the pics!!!
     
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    syscokid Well-Known Member

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    Norton, you bust me up!

    But...
    I'll give you this... :yesway:.

    But...
    For someone who really, really knows what they are doing!

    And...
    Simple??? :wow:

    And...
    Yes. Lots of good luck and lots of pics...:thumb:
     
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  8. bblooz

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    Here's the pic I posted in my intro and NGD threads:
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    I’ll stand by simple and easy, and you can practice on a scrap of wood until you’re comfortable with the real thing.

    Dropping a gibson logo and pineapple into a headstock is Way less complicated than dressing frets. Way less crucial than slotting a nut.

    Now...it’s totally possible to screw it up. But that’s where the attention to detail and care come into play.

    You can do it.
     
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    Shhhhh'... you're gonna talk me into replacing those Les Paul signatures on my 2015 Standards. :D
     
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  11. poppunk

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    I mean, if you're the Rain Main of woodworking, sure. But if OP really has some experience, then maybe. Otherwise, you're overestimating the craftsmanship of a regular person.
     
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    What year were these specials with ebony board made? I have an LP special with an ebony board and really like it.
     
  13. bblooz

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    Not sure of all the years, but I believe they started in the late '80s and tapered off in the mid '90s. I've had several LP Studios from this era and they were awesome (heavy though - probably no weight relief!).
     
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    Bull****! It's tedious, easy to screw up and very visible work to bastardize an iconic feature of the instrument. But as long as you are willing to stand behind your word with money and technical support if he screws it up, right?
     
  15. Norton

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    Have you done any inlay work like this? I have. It’s surprisingly easy. If you use the right tools and are careful.

    I’m actually surprised it took you this long to chime in with a heavy dose of negativity.

    Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

    Logo inlay and fill is not difficult and it’s super gratifying to see it come together. The only precision involved is depth. Not exactly slotting a fretboard. Certainly not brain surgery.
     
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    If the cosmetics are very important to you, perhaps. Consider having a professional (someone QUALIFIED, INSURED and LICENSED to do business)do the job. It is not as easy a job as some blathersites might make you believe and the the potential to screw up a very visible part of your guitar is very real. You will negatively affect the resale value in any event.
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    Why in Heaven's name would you mess with that gorgeous Ferrari red Special?
     
  17. Norton

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    Always dependable.
     
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    Wow! I did not know about hte stew mac option. Cool!
     
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    I think that would be a really fun project.

    A lot of what has been said above seems relative to a person's skill
    with woodworking tools, and willingness to cut into something that does
    NOT need cutting.

    I'll mention one particular Luthier School proverb:

    PRACTICE ON SCRAP

    What this means is: Don't learn how to do inlay work by experimenting
    on your prized SG. If you already know how to do precision routing and
    Dremel work, then you can probably go ahead with confidence... do what
    you will.

    If you have never done anything like this before, I recommend
    that you buy some Ebony Headstock Veneer, glue it to a 2x4
    and get some experience before you start defacing a beautiful instrument.
    Buy a garage sale guitar and practice your inlay work on that.

    Or else take your prized SG to a qualified luthier and pay him to
    do the work you want. ($$$$$$$$$)

    Another alternative exists... Sell your SG Special unmodded to someone
    who values it more than you do, and use the money
    to buy the guitar you actually want. You'll get more money for your
    SG if you haven't carved into it yet.
     
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  20. Norlin SG

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    Completely ridiculous. Have you considered actually just playing the damn thing? I know it seems absurd to just use a guitar for what it is intended for.

    When you are playing it, you can't even see mods you spent ridiculous money on.
     
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