Well this is a weird one...

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  1. PermissionToLand

    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    My strap button won't come off. I got the screw out no problem but it's literally stuck to the guitar, and well. I'm afraid to pull/push too hard on it and damage the finish if it's bonded with the nitro. Any ideas?
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Maybe use an x-acto blade to score the finish around the edge of the button.

    Then insert the tip of a soldering iron in the strap button hole to soften any adhesive or finish that may be holding it in place.
     
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  3. Huntroll

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    Put the screw back in, then loosen it about 1/2 a turn, then wiggle the button until its unstuck.

    Having the screw in there will limit the buttons ability to do damage.
     
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    Warm up the button with a lighter or barbeque starter??
     
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  6. PermissionToLand

    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    Well, tapping it lightly with a screwdriver handle did the trick.

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    It almost looks like there was glue under it, but I put these on myself and definitely didn't glue them!
     
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    Glad you got it off without trouble! I instantly rushed off to see to it that all my guitars have the felt washer in place. They do.
     
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    I suspect sugar under the strap button ...
     
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    Perhaps the button had a coating that reacted and formed nitro-glue... are you replacing the buttons or putting stock back on?
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure why I removed the felt washer in the first place, I must have been worried about it reacting with the nitro.

    Dang, I gotta stop powdering doughnuts while I work on my guitars!

    Seems possible. These are Schaller buttons for the straplocks, so already aftermarket and I was only taking it off to lay the guitar flat and measure the neck angle.
     
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    I don’t advise this, as it will be too close to the finish. As mentioned above, back the screw off a 1/2 turn and give it a firm wiggle. The lacquer is probably securing it. A block of wood (or better yet, a clean chalk bird eraser) can be set against it for some light taps to break it free.
     
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    I actually never thought of this until I saw your post, I thought they were just there to hold the screw tight.
     
  13. Go Nigel Go

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    Felt should be pretty non-reactive with anything you are likely to find on a guitar. The general purpose of felt, rubber, neoprene, and other "squishy" type washers is to spread the load evenly over the entire contact surface. It is a good idea if you want to make sure not to dent the finish etc. It may not be a vital concern to a lot of people, but if it worries you, felt is probably best. Some of my guitars have felt, some probably don't. I put strap locks on some of my "battle axes", and the new buttons came with felt so I put it on. Most didn't have felt before, and showed some marks or indentations where the previous button was in contact. Did it bug me? No.
    The bottom line is that there really is no downside to a felt washer that I can think of, but I wouldn't let it hold me up if I didn't have one handy for a working guitar. In the unlikely event I ever own an expensive collectible instrument I would absolutely use the felts though.
     
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