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  1. plankton

    plankton Well-Known Member

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    Looks like a bolt on neck with 4 control knobs and dot inlays but with a small guard.

    Not a G310, or a converted Special, or a G400 as far as I can tell.

    https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/moana/guitars-amps/electric-guitar/1283368922

    I'd contact the seller but I'm not really interested in buying it and don't want to waste their time. Just curious really. Anyone recognize this model?
     
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    It is not a bolt-on neck, they have the tail piece lower on the body. The G-400 had dot inlays until 1995, but they also had a trc with wings, which this one doesn't have. Also 12th fret dots are too close to the edges of the neck.

    G-4001990.jpg

    But ... at that period, there were many factories building for Epiphone and specs were allover the place.
     
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    I assumed bolt on neck from where the 22nd fret is located, right up next to the pickup rather than where the neck joins the body.
     
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    Like I said, specs all over the place. In this case it's not as much the 22nd fret that's close to the pickup, but the pickup that's close to the 22nd fret. If that was a bolt-on neck with the bridge where it is, it would be a shorter scale than 24.75".
     
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    I messaged the seller and he confirmed that it is a set neck but said there is no serial number. Weird.
     
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    Early Epiphone had stickers for serial ID, a lot just got unglued and flew away.

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    Yeah i have 89 Korean Epiphone G400 and it has a sticker on the headstock....

    that one looks like Special or G310 model ....
    It has clipped ears Epiphone headstock, body like G310, but not bolt on neck? Weird
    Also this one has a guitar binding with dots in the fretboard
    Could it be that someone took a G310 body and Classic neck and glued it together? And refinished it in ebony finish?
     
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    He said he hadn't made any changes to it but didn't mention if he was the original owner. I guess this one will remain a mystery.
     
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    I'll ask around.
     
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    Expert friend says it is a strange bird. There are a few undefined parents Epiphones out there, bastards if you want. Someone at the factory had fun.

    You're buying it ?
     
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    I wasn't planning on it. I have room for one more SG in my collection and it's reserved for a nice '61 style cherry model, either a Epi Vintage or a Tokai, just waiting for the right one to come along.
     
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    The Epi '61 reissues from 2011 are nice. Veneer though. if you're a purist, you have to dig deeper.
     
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    I don't mind the veneer, but a lot of the newer ones have that awful stripey look to them. It's too bad because I'm really happy with the quality of my 2020 Epi SG Special, which is pelham blue, but the translucent finished guitars I've seen look really bad.
     
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    if this is original... it's definitely not from the 80s or 90s...

    anyway better pics would help... but just from what's available... i would say this is one of those very early fakes from mid-00s...
     
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    What do you see that makes you think it's not from that time period?

    This is all just out of curiosity, I have no plans to buy the guitar, so I didn't want to ask for more pics and waste the sellers time.
     
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    80s had that open book headstock.
    90s didn't have binding.

    also the headstock proportions looks off, could be the bad pics available but it looks slightly elongated...
    and the epiphone logo also doesn't look to be positioned / sized right...
    the controls layout also looks quite squished and at a weird angle...
    all very similar to what early fakes look like.
     
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