Why the SG is the ultimate guitar!

Discussion in 'Gibson SG' started by zone47, Feb 25, 2014.

  1. eS.G.

    eS.G. Well-Known Member

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    No probably about it......they would be sued till the Tuesday after Hell froze over.....the media would get a hold of it show pictures of the bloodied and life threatened poor children in the crowd........yep things have changed.
     
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    I believe Townshend only used the Gretsch on a few songs in "Who's Next", including "Won't Get Fooled Again" (read it in his biography). The Gretsch was a gift to him from Joe Walsh. You're right, Pete was concerned about how fragile the Gretsch was, especially for onstage, which is why he didn't use it much.

    I think the issue is more which guitar did Townshend reach superstardom on - it's the SG. The fact that Townshend played the SG during the "Tommy" era says enough for me. In fact, I believe he recorded Tommy with an SG Special. I look at the SG (during The Who's heyday) and the Rickenbacker (during the early days) as his trademark guitars.
     
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    The SG is awesome, among the other reasons cited above, because it's direct competitor is the Les Paul, and SGs are just so much cooler than Les Pauls.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Les Pauls - I own three of them; their tone is beautiful, and I love the way they feel in my hands. But let's face it - image wise, the image of Pete Townshend thrashing his SG during "Young Man Blues" at the 1970 Isle of Wight concert is so much cooler than watching Slash posing around onstage with his Les Paul and his stupid hat.
     
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    Rosetta Tharpe's the real deal... total talent and sincere spirituality.
    cain't argue with that. she makes the SG come alive, but I'm sure she could
    sound that good on any guitar she picked up. As could Pete Townshend and lots
    of these other artists we've mentioned.

    We're just having fun here, untroubled by facts.. just having fun. Why not?
    We've got some new members aboard who are enjoying the rush of NSGD and
    the idea that we've got a forum that is mostly friendly and welcoming... which
    is hard to beat.

    Me, I don't mind someone bringing in a few facts... I might learn something.
    And we usually manage to have a discussion even with differing opinions without
    too much angst. That's a good thing. Too much nicey nicey might get boring... too much flame and brimstone gets tiresome in a hurry. Let's steer this boat in between.
     
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    I agree.

    Some critics have said that heavy metal was born when The Who recorded Live At Leeds, a claim that actually offended Pete Townshend! So yes, he certainly was able to crank out a seriously ballsy sound from his SG.
     
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    Between the navigational buoys COl.:thumb:
     
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    or from any guitar I'm sure.

    but Pete might have been offended about being labelled as heavy metal because that sound was supposedly pioneered by Iron Butterfly, and the
    term coined by writers trying to understand where the music was going.

    PT may have hated Iron Butterfly... *laughs Not his cup of tea...
    And Iron Butterfly isn't really metal... in the way we think of it now.
    Pioneers of the time. I remember sitting around in a room full of hippies
    and smoke and listening to this whole thing. We'd never heard anything like it. There was nothing else like this on the radio. I've always liked the drums. I always thought the bass had the dead-thump sound of Gibson basses. But they look to be playing Mosrite guitars. Groovy, man...
    Far out...

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4&feature=kp]IRON BUTTERFLY - IN A GADDA DA VIDA - 1968 (ORIGINAL FULL VERSION) CD SOUND & 3D VIDEO - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Ah yes.....smoke, er uhm yeah cough..puff puff give dude.....hippies.....I was blessed to have (though my Parents where total establishment types) friends with hippie artist free wheeling parents, VW vans, sandles the whole burrito, and we spent hours listening to this album on REEL TO REEL Fisher High Fi....and rockin his Dads Fender bass........damn those where the days!!!

    Thanks COl. for THAT little audio trip back in time :-)
     
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    In that line Col. and this is not just germane to this thread, but I have seen many photos of this feller playing a Gibson SG yet I don't hear or see many folks mentioning him.
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    Like how I used "germane" and "feller" in the same sentence? I are a high tech red neck :)
     
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    i am not gonna argue with you. i do agree Wont get Fooled Again(my favorite song in the world btw) does have the best guitar sound ON RECORD..i just think you are nit picking..if people want to associate Pete with the SG, let us.. i don't see a sig Gretsch from him..and i listen to a lot of live Who, and i find(or I LIKE) his SG sound, more than i like his Rick, LP, or Strat sounds live.. .. hell, Page is known for his LP, but he recorded a bunch of stuff with Tele..in the studio many things can be done..i think LIVE when I'm thinking a cats sound..but thats me..
     
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    i think a band name, makes people think METAL..hell, i can't stand to think of Black Sabbath as metal..when i was a kid people thought Led Zep was metal.. everyone wants to label stuff:dunno:
     
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    this is my point..LIVE is what I'm talking...:thumb:
     
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    There's too much Ford vs Chevy-type crap about guitars anyway. Pete Townshend used what he did to get the sound he wanted, in the studio or live, like any artist.

    It was just the world's good fortune that he chose a P-90 equipped SG for some of the best performances ever recorded and/or filmed. It's an unmistakable sound, and it never gets old.
     
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    F*CKING A!:thumb:
     
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    Umm...just so we're all on the same page here and as fair warning to all...

    ...there shall be no dissing of the Butterfly!

    Are we clear?

    It hasn't happened, yet...but I'm keeping my eye on things.

    If I sense any dissing of Iron Butterfly, I shall have no choice but to hunt you down and step on your blue suede shoes.

    Ya'll have been warned.:naughty:
     
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    Smitty, I gotta shovel & tarp in the trunk, lemme know if ya need back up.:thumb:

    And meanwhile back at the ranch,
    SG's STILL ROCK!
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    smitty_p Well-Known Member

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    eS.G.,

    I think things will be alright. The other members of the forum have gotten used to my periodic fits of feistiness!

    BTW, I think that ad is great.

    The best line is where it describes the SG as a "featherweight power tool."

    That is terrific!!
     
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    No direct issues with anyone Smitty.....I too can rant with the best of them:thumb:.......I was just attempting to pull the thread back to its original focus. :applause:
     
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    Ok so we covered a lot of good ground here, SG love, SG hate and I think we're back to the love part again. What can we do next ?


    How about some good SG pics ! :)


    Here is a nice one ...... I was dusting the music room one day and found this SG on top of the amp ..... I'd been wondering where I put it :confused:


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    and here is some SG porn ..... these are two Classics .... a 05 on the left and a 06 on the right. You have to ask yourself why the 05 is so much fatter? Well, I think it's just some wide angle distortion, but look at the plates, they are indeed different. Must be one of those quality control and legal problems that we've been hearing soooo much about. :mad:

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    Anyone have SG action shots?
     
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    From earlier this week.

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    And two SGs

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