Real or Fake?

scnuke · Jun 12, 2006

Hello - can you tell if this is fake or real SG Custom? Headstock serial is 01433468 Made in USA
But something doesn't seem quite right, like the knobs (could have been replaced) position of tuners compared to others of that era.
Any help would be greatly appreciated before I invest any money buying this. Images are:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/scnuke/dsc01912.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/scnuke/dsc01918.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/scnuke/dsc01920.jpg

Six String · Jun 12, 2006

Welcome to ETSG scnuke! :) :) :)

From the pix.... it looks like a Custom and the pups are right. The serial number says it's a 03...? Love the White/ Gold SG's!! 8) 8) 8)

gotdabluz · Jun 12, 2006

unbound headstock with crappy looking diamond decal, wrong fingerboard inlays, pickguard totally fekked up, neck joint cover missing "Les Paul Custom" logo
. . . I could go on and on, but this is about as fake as they come . . . in fact, it is just plain wrong

guitarweasel · Jun 12, 2006

Definitely a fake.

scnuke · Jun 12, 2006

Thanks for the reply's. When you go to the Custom Shop and put the pix side by side it becomes VERY obvious. >

guitarweasel · Jun 12, 2006

Were you considering buying it? :?

gotdabluz · Jun 12, 2006

If you're thinkin about buying it . . . don't!
. . . If you already did . . . I'm sorry

if its any consolation . . .

:dance: [size=14pt]!!! WELCOME TO ETSG scnuke !!![/size] :dance:

scnuke · Jun 12, 2006

I was, but not now. I don't have anything against cheap Chinese bangers, in fact I have a couple that are not too bad, but I don't try to pass them off as the real deal.
I've just always wanted a Custom to go along with the Standard, but until recently, kids, mortgages and real life have prevented it.

roolin:

gotdabluz · Jun 12, 2006

hey! that avatar looks like me!!!
. . . gotta replace that coffe cup with a bottle of beer, though! ;D

btw . . . been there, and still there to some degree
. . . I've just gotten to the point in my life where I can afford to buy toyz for myself
. . . still can't afford those custom shop jobs tho
. . . just have to dream an drool on those!

Six String · Jun 12, 2006

.......... but on the other hand, if you can play it and it plays well then give a proper price for a fake......... You may be able to get it dirt cheap and save someone else from getting scammed..... but still get a good guitar. Isn't it in the playing............? :coolsmiley:

guitarweasel · Jun 12, 2006

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.......... but on the other hand, if you can play it and it plays well then give a proper price for a fake......... You may be able to get it dirt cheap and save someone else from getting scammed..... but still get a good guitar. Isn't it in the playing............? :coolsmiley:
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Yeah 6er, thats one way of lookin at it...........but it just seems wrong to patronize a guy selling a fake.

gotdabluz · Jun 12, 2006

[quote author=guitarweasel link=topic=8920.msg114012#msg114012 date=1150120726]

Yeah 6er, thats one way of lookin at it...........but it just seems wrong to patronize a a guy selling a fake.

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agreed . . . it just keeps em in shady business

Six String · Jun 12, 2006

.... I agree Weas :cry: but is it getting a guitar that sounds good (about the playing) or the business/ collectablity of the piece? To me, if it was a good playing and sounding guitar, I buy it.... but ONLY if it sounded good. The "wrong to patronize a guy selling a fake....." unfortunately only means he will find another"sucker"....... Sad state of affairs............ :cry:

And even worse.... he prolly wouldn't sell it to someone that knows it's a fake anyway. Whatcha gonna do.......... :-\ :-\

guitarweasel · Jun 12, 2006

Yep, it is a sad commentary. I just hate seeing a newbie guitar player getting suckered into buying a guitar that sounds and looks great at first, only to have it start falling apart later on........makes ya want to stop playing altogether.

Back before ebay, I answered an ad for a Les Paul/SG Jr, only to find out the guy had actually had a rubber stamp made and stamped the headstock Les Paul Junior :o go figure :-\

scnuke · Jun 12, 2006

Good points from everyone. Unfortunately, fakes are here to stay, and education is the only defense.
As for the guy selling this one, I'm going to shoot him an email letting him know the jig is up. In addition I'll let Ebay know, and ask the seller a question. If he answers, it will be posted for everyone to see. Check out the auction here...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7421507934&sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:US:1

Now get this -- the auction price is only at around $15, but...he wants over $300 for shipping from China!! Now maybe $315 is not a bad price for this guitar if it plays well, and if he was in the USA I might take a chance on it...but China is a long way to have to deal with a problem.

Like I said earlier, I have a couple of knockoffs... a Stellar I bought off Ebay, really kind of good for the $100 bucks it cost me, and a REALLY nice Agile LP Goldtop with 3 P-90's that I got from Rondo Music in New Jersey. That guitar amazes me and everyone that sees it with the sound and quality for $199! I've also got a bastard Strat, but my pride and joy will always be the SG Standard I bought brand new in 1970 for $325 with the money I made working at Mcdonalds when I was in 10th grade.

Thanks everyone - I can tell I'm going to have a good time here.

Six String · Jun 12, 2006

At $15 I'd buy 3 or 4 for stage trim or do a Who tribute thing, but the $300 S & H would kill that idea................ :roll:

Weas is right about the new guitar players and getting ripped off by a guit that starts falling apart. That is truly sad. Maybe the most important thing is to not tell them which guitar is best, but to teach them how to tell a rip-off.......................... :cry: :cry: :cry:

scnuke · Jun 12, 2006

Guys - my apologies, after looking around the forum, I realize this topic should have gone to Ebay Trash and Treasure, so any mod, feel free to do so.
Now I just heard back from the seller to my email questioning the authenticity of this item:

Response from huaxiameiyu
huaxiameiyu( 6)
Positive Feedback: 100%
Member Since: Apr-02-06
Location: ??, China
Registered On: www.ebay.cn

Item: fair-sounding musice instrument SG electric guitar (7421507934)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
huaxiameiyu is the seller.

My friend:This is a real Gibson.It made in china.

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BTW - to gotdabluz - you made me realize I needed to update my avatar to a more current look...

guitarweasel · Jun 12, 2006

My friend:This is a real Gibson.It made in china.

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Yeah......They no makey Gibsons in China :funny: :roughup:

gotdabluz · Jun 12, 2006

bein a newbie . . . we'll let ya off with a slap on the wrist this time

Real Gibson . . . made in China? :rofl:

it appears your avatar has aged rather quickly!
. . . don't forget to put your pin up on the member map: http://everythingsg.com/forum/index.php?action=mm

gotdabluz · Jun 12, 2006

Weaz that avatar looks more like you now than it does me . . . except that it has hair ;D

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