Arlabester
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well i hate floyds, ive tried them before.
trem stability.
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vkgphil
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[quote author=Arlabester link=topic=16889.msg211347#msg211347 date=1210619383]
locking nuts dont fit a strat.
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oh? mine does :?
locking nuts dont fit a strat.
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oh? mine does :?
vkgphil
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[quote author=Arlabester link=topic=16889.msg212165#msg212165 date=1211562338]
well i hate floyds, ive tried them before.
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well you asked, several have said go floyd if you want stability (mine has one and i NEVER have an issue with going out of tune)
you dont like em fine
deal with your issues >
well i hate floyds, ive tried them before.
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well you asked, several have said go floyd if you want stability (mine has one and i NEVER have an issue with going out of tune)
you dont like em fine
deal with your issues >
Arlabester
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[quote author=vkgphil link=topic=16889.msg212170#msg212170 date=1211566512]
well you asked, several have said go floyd if you want stability (mine has one and i NEVER have an issue with going out of tune)
you dont like em fine
deal with your issues >
[/quote]thats why i was asking, for help on how to get stability with a vintage trem...
well you asked, several have said go floyd if you want stability (mine has one and i NEVER have an issue with going out of tune)
you dont like em fine
deal with your issues >
[/quote]thats why i was asking, for help on how to get stability with a vintage trem...
q-4000-SG Guy
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easy answer
you can't have stability with a vintage trem, unlike the FR.
you can dump allot of money in trying to fix it but it will never be as good as a FR
locking tuners are good at keeping the post from turning but strings will tighten and slack on the tuner post locking nuts will hold the string in place.
oh and you say you hate FL tremol's ya ever think maby it was the guitar it was on?
ive played some cheep guitars with knock offs and real ones that played like crap sounded like crap and just felt crapy then i played a ESP (not ltd) with one and WOW!
if you are wanting to keep the vintage trem then expect to tune it every time you play.
you can't have stability with a vintage trem, unlike the FR.
you can dump allot of money in trying to fix it but it will never be as good as a FR
locking tuners are good at keeping the post from turning but strings will tighten and slack on the tuner post locking nuts will hold the string in place.
oh and you say you hate FL tremol's ya ever think maby it was the guitar it was on?
ive played some cheep guitars with knock offs and real ones that played like crap sounded like crap and just felt crapy then i played a ESP (not ltd) with one and WOW!
if you are wanting to keep the vintage trem then expect to tune it every time you play.
Arlabester
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=UzT-tc3p_OU
no, its not the guitar it was on. it was on a jackson soloist. i just hate floyd roses. i hate how the feel, i hate the maintianence.
no, its not the guitar it was on. it was on a jackson soloist. i just hate floyd roses. i hate how the feel, i hate the maintianence.
q-4000-SG Guy
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[quote author=Arlabester link=topic=16889.msg212187#msg212187 date=1211578503]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UzT-tc3p_OU
no, its not the guitar it was on. it was on a jackson soloist..........i hate the maintianence.
[/quote]Jacksons are iffy anyway but what maintenance are you talking about??? plus you would have the ability to fine tune so when it did get a little out of tune you can fix it quick! cant do that with a Vintage!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UzT-tc3p_OU
no, its not the guitar it was on. it was on a jackson soloist..........i hate the maintianence.
[/quote]Jacksons are iffy anyway but what maintenance are you talking about??? plus you would have the ability to fine tune so when it did get a little out of tune you can fix it quick! cant do that with a Vintage!
vkgphil
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ha! maintenance?? :roll:
yeah the fine tuning is pretty nice, you can really get dead on... at least as good as you can w/o those bendy frets :roll: :roll:
yeah the fine tuning is pretty nice, you can really get dead on... at least as good as you can w/o those bendy frets :roll: :roll:
q-4000-SG Guy
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thats what he should do get one of thoes necks with the bendy frets and graphite nut hell his mom pays for it all!!!! but he will be ok when his band takes off 8)
Arlabester
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[quote author=q-4000-SG Guy link=topic=16889.msg212205#msg212205 date=1211590404]
thats what he should do get one of thoes necks with the bendy frets and graphite nut hell his mom pays for it all!!!! but he will be ok when his band takes off 8)
[/quote]my mom doesnt pay for it. way to say the worst thing possible. too bad i work for everything i pay for. ive gotten one or two pieces of gear for x-mas, and thats it. good try.
and i hate that you have to cut the strings in two places, and how you have to unlock it. yeah, thats maintenence. i hate floyds. and a jackson pro soloist (SL-1) is not iffy. good try.
thats what he should do get one of thoes necks with the bendy frets and graphite nut hell his mom pays for it all!!!! but he will be ok when his band takes off 8)
[/quote]my mom doesnt pay for it. way to say the worst thing possible. too bad i work for everything i pay for. ive gotten one or two pieces of gear for x-mas, and thats it. good try.
and i hate that you have to cut the strings in two places, and how you have to unlock it. yeah, thats maintenence. i hate floyds. and a jackson pro soloist (SL-1) is not iffy. good try.
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cut the string in 2 places? who taught u that?
just thread them thru with the ball end at the headstock side, then cut off the ball end only.
so just cut them at 1 place, just like regular stringing.
unless ur one of those messy ones who dont bother cutting anything.
u dont have floyds.
u are just lazy.
just thread them thru with the ball end at the headstock side, then cut off the ball end only.
so just cut them at 1 place, just like regular stringing.
unless ur one of those messy ones who dont bother cutting anything.
u dont have floyds.
u are just lazy.
Arlabester, You should pick up a copy of the guitar player repair guide by Dan Erlewine, lots of good information in that book wich comes from decades of expierience. I went a head and looked some stuff up for you and heres what it said.
1. Give your tremelo a stable return point by setting it up so it rests on the face of the guitar, you wont be able to pull up but you'll have better stability.
2. Wichever nut you end up with, make sure its installed and setup well for your prefered gauge of string.
3. Knock back some of the friction from the string trees by making sure all surfaces especialy the edges are smooth and free of kinks and burs. Dan also recomends a drop of gun oil or similar lubricant on the undersides.(I use the brand 'Breakfree' on all my guns and tremelo springs, I like it)
4. Look over trem springs, make sure they are free of unwanted bend or kinks. Also make sure you have the correct number, type, and placement of springs. Dan recomend three for 10's and up. LIGHTLY lube trem springs, see step 3.
5.Stretch your string. I mean really stretch em, get all the slack out before you tune up after changing strings.
6. Make sure you are putting the strings on correctly. Locking tuners eliminates this from the equation pretty much.
7. Here's a summary of Dan's opinions on the tremm setter. The biggest difference is actually not in using the trem itself, but in keeping other strings in tune when bending strings. It's effective at helping the trem return to pitch, but may "bind" shacking the trem arm or giving the bridge a little bits of a smack should do the trick in the odd event of a bind. The difference in tone many people claim to expeirience is subjective.
HOpe that helps some. And guys, who cares who buys his guitars? FOr the record I dont care much for floyds either as I do agree they are usually more work than they are worth IMO. I have one and they are fun but give me an American standard or vintage style any day!
I dont dive bomb though.
1. Give your tremelo a stable return point by setting it up so it rests on the face of the guitar, you wont be able to pull up but you'll have better stability.
2. Wichever nut you end up with, make sure its installed and setup well for your prefered gauge of string.
3. Knock back some of the friction from the string trees by making sure all surfaces especialy the edges are smooth and free of kinks and burs. Dan also recomends a drop of gun oil or similar lubricant on the undersides.(I use the brand 'Breakfree' on all my guns and tremelo springs, I like it)
4. Look over trem springs, make sure they are free of unwanted bend or kinks. Also make sure you have the correct number, type, and placement of springs. Dan recomend three for 10's and up. LIGHTLY lube trem springs, see step 3.
5.Stretch your string. I mean really stretch em, get all the slack out before you tune up after changing strings.
6. Make sure you are putting the strings on correctly. Locking tuners eliminates this from the equation pretty much.
7. Here's a summary of Dan's opinions on the tremm setter. The biggest difference is actually not in using the trem itself, but in keeping other strings in tune when bending strings. It's effective at helping the trem return to pitch, but may "bind" shacking the trem arm or giving the bridge a little bits of a smack should do the trick in the odd event of a bind. The difference in tone many people claim to expeirience is subjective.
HOpe that helps some. And guys, who cares who buys his guitars? FOr the record I dont care much for floyds either as I do agree they are usually more work than they are worth IMO. I have one and they are fun but give me an American standard or vintage style any day!
I dont dive bomb though.
q-4000-SG Guy
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[quote author=Arlabester link=topic=16889.msg212217#msg212217 date=1211597202]
my mom doesnt pay for it.
[/quote]you posted in another thred that your mom cut your budget for your guitars.
my mom doesnt pay for it.
[/quote]you posted in another thred that your mom cut your budget for your guitars.
vkgphil
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another candidate for lockage?
Zeppelin Rules
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[quote author=vkgphil link=topic=16889.msg212239#msg212239 date=1211644190]
another candidate for lockage?
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Just about.
another candidate for lockage?
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Just about.
q-4000-SG Guy
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and you know Arlabester ..... oh nevermind i dont feel like getting banned today LOCK IT DOWN!
guitarweasel
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Arlabester
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[quote author=q-4000-SG Guy link=topic=16889.msg212234#msg212234 date=1211642786]
you posted in another thred that your mom cut your budget for your guitars.
[/quote]as in, shes not letting me spend that much. shes like "you have to buy something that your not just going to wreck!"
thanks, mom. :\
you posted in another thred that your mom cut your budget for your guitars.
[/quote]as in, shes not letting me spend that much. shes like "you have to buy something that your not just going to wreck!"
thanks, mom. :\
Once again, WHO CARES WHO BUYS GUITARS FOR THE KID?! This WAS a perfectly good thread until crap like that got brought up. I'll never know why people seem to have a personal vendetta against younger kids buying/selling/owning nice guitars, it's perfectly fine if your over 30 though right. :roll: THe bottom lin, it's none of anyones bussiness who buys who what, or how they pay for it. If some of you knew how I was able to aford all my guitars in such a short period of time, you'd probably flip and call the DEA.
All just my humble opinion.
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All just my humble opinion.
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