Florida Luthier.

[SG FIRST TIMER]

This is for sale in my area. Seller says this is a 2000.00 dollar guitar. Any of you Florida guys know any thing about this luthier. Russell Lee Davis.

 

[eS.G.]

NEver heard of him................ what part of Floriduh is he in?

https://www.facebook.com/Russell-Lee-Davis-Guitars-1114841955203221/

 

[SG FIRST TIMER]

NEver heard of him................ what part of Floriduh is he in?

https://www.facebook.com/Russell-Lee-Davis-Guitars-1114841955203221/

This is all the info given.
"I had this guitar made custom by a luthier in Ft. Lauderdale. It has an amazing top. Plays and sounds great! It has one very small chip on bottom of guitar body at the binding. Can't hardly notice it. I paid 2000.00 for it. Has they body neck. High end pickups. Locking tuners. This is a must see guitar. Excellent buy for the money. Comes with gator hard shell case." Hey eS.G. I looked on line found the same thing you posted. Thought it was kinda odd. Same name, Luthier, other end of the country.

 

[eS.G.]

Well its possible the guy moved.........THe facebook page is very minimal......

I mean how much is the guy asking for it???

 

[SG FIRST TIMER]

Well its possible the guy moved.........THe facebook page is very minimal......

I mean how much is the guy asking for it???

He is asking 800.00 for it. Here are a couple more picks. I think he means neck threw body. I just figured if this Luthier was well known. You would probably know him. What i find on the net, shows him out of S.Cali. Nothing out of Florida that i could find. And if you've never heard of him, I doubt his work is worth 2k. But if he was some kind of big time guitar maker, I might buy and sell this thing to make a little money. To fund my next gitfiddle.

 

[eS.G.]

HA! and the "flipper bug" is biting eh?

Well I will dig a bit more but I have never heard of the fella.
Perhaps Dave Johnson OR SG Island OR VOXman .....others may have heard of him here. But I have not.

ME personally --- 800.00 is a bigger gamble than I would go on a custom unknown Luthier
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[SG FIRST TIMER]

HA! and the "flipper bug" is biting eh?

Well I will dig a bit more but I have never heard of the fella.
Perhaps Dave Johnson OR SG Island OR VOXman .....others may have heard of him here. But I have not.

ME personally --- 800.00 is a bigger gamble than I would go on a custom unknown Luthier
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LoL. Yeah I was hoping you would tell me he was the illegitimate grand child of Leo Fender and Les Paul. And the guitar was probably worth 5k. Thats when i was gonna gamble 800.00. After looking closely at the guitars on that facebook page, I think it may very well be the same guy. One body style, but in green, looked a lot like this one.

 

[Col Mustard]

you have to play it before you buy it. that's one thing you can pull
off these boards. We see so many posts by people who bought something sight unseen
and then were very disappointed. But that only goes for guys who are buying for their
own music. It goes double for guys who hope to make money selling them

If you're looking to make money flipping guitars, you don't lay out $800 on an unknown
thing. Because what you want is to own something that everybody knows is good, and you
paid less than it's worth. That's how you make a profit. Buy low, sell high. Volume, volume
turn up the volume.

IMHO, no guitar is worth 5K... I don't flip them, I play them.
And for a player, a guitar is an investment. You buy it, and hope you can pay for it
by playing it for money. If you're playing $100 gigs, like many of us, then you can't
justify (or pay for) a guitar that expensive. The math is all wrong.

If you're a collector, then you don't think of 'resale' because you aren't selling, you're
collecting. So you value a guitar in terms of what you don't have. All of that is meaningless
to me, as you can probably read between my lines. I can't speak for collectors. I don't
get it about OCD.

If you're a dealer, then you value a guitar based on how fast it sells, and/or how hard you
have to work to brow-beat someone into buying what you have. An unknown custom guitar
built for who knows who by an unknown luthier is not what a dealer would consider a movable
item. It might sit in inventory for six months, by which time you judge it a loser and mark it
down.

All of these considerations seem to eliminate the guitar in question...
EXCEPT for the hard working and underpaid guitarist who might buy it and make incredible
music with it. That person ought to consider buying this unique instrument.

 

[SG FIRST TIMER]

you have to play it before you buy it. that's one thing you can pull
off these boards. We see so many posts by people who bought something sight unseen
and then were very disappointed. But that only goes for guys who are buying for their
own music. It goes double for guys who hope to make money selling them

If you're looking to make money flipping guitars, you don't lay out $800 on an unknown
thing. Because what you want is to own something that everybody knows is good, and you
paid less than it's worth. That's how you make a profit. Buy low, sell high. Volume, volume
turn up the volume.

IMHO, no guitar is worth 5K... I don't flip them, I play them.
And for a player, a guitar is an investment. You buy it, and hope you can pay for it
by playing it for money. If you're playing $100 gigs, like many of us, then you can't
justify (or pay for) a guitar that expensive. The math is all wrong.

If you're a collector, then you don't think of 'resale' because you aren't selling, you're
collecting. So you value a guitar in terms of what you don't have. All of that is meaningless
to me, as you can probably read between my lines. I can't speak for collectors. I don't
get it about OCD.

If you're a dealer, then you value a guitar based on how fast it sells, and/or how hard you
have to work to brow-beat someone into buying what you have. An unknown custom guitar
built for who knows who by an unknown luthier is not what a dealer would consider a movable
item. It might sit in inventory for six months, by which time you judge it a loser and mark it
down.

All of these considerations seem to eliminate the guitar in question...
EXCEPT for the hard working and underpaid guitarist who might buy it and make incredible
music with it. That person ought to consider buying this unique instrument.

Good points...That may be why the guy who owns it paid 2000.00 and is selling it for 800.00. It is a very pretty guitar.

 

[eS.G.]

We see so many posts by people who bought something sight unseen
and then were very disappointed.

Even Gibson SG's from "reputable" vendors. Ask Wavmixer

Here is something to keep in mind EVERYONE in our GLOBAL economy as well. alibaba.com be carefull gents.....lots of "impostors" out there.
The guitar your looking at COULD have been hand crafted by a US Luthier.........or it could be one of these.....
http://spreadmusic.en.alibaba.com/p..._handmade_electric_guitar_from_guangzhou.html

Modified and sold as a custom luthier guitar..............for 800.00 (huge discount of "real price") as Col said.......touchy feely is the best policy especially as the $$$$ gets fat.

I mean 160.00 used Squire Tele or something---- ods are you can buy online and even if the neck is crap you can put a new one on for 30.00 and your not butt hurt to bad........you spend 800.00 on a "gamble" your butt HURTS.

 

[SG FIRST TIMER]

Even Gibson SG's from "reputable" vendors. Ask Wavmixer

Here is something to keep in mind EVERYONE in our GLOBAL economy as well. alibaba.com be carefull gents.....lots of "impostors" out there.
The guitar your looking at COULD have been hand crafted by a US Luthier.........or it could be one of these.....
http://spreadmusic.en.alibaba.com/p..._handmade_electric_guitar_from_guangzhou.html

Modified and sold as a custom luthier guitar..............for 800.00 (huge discount of "real price") as Col said.......touchy feely is the best policy especially as the $$$$ gets fat.

I mean 160.00 used Squire Tele or something---- ods are you can buy online and even if the neck is crap you can put a new one on for 30.00 and your not butt hurt to bad........you spend 800.00 on a "gamble" your butt HURTS.

Thats why i ran it by youss guys. I dint wanna drop the soap in the shower. Thanks for the imput. Yeah if it was a real deal, great guitar. i think the seller would have given more detail. Type of woods, pups, electronics, ect. used in the build. And I thought the guitars on the possible website, looked like mail order, DIY guitar kits, with really nice paint jobs.

 

[Dave Johnson]

I never heard of him either. And not anything of much online.
And every guitar on that Facebook page, of which there was only a total of 3 different ones, though pretty had the metric bridge posts.
To me that just screams Asian origin.
One goofy add from Miami that was asking $899 for one, yet said listed at $3000.
My B.S. meter is going off, sorry.

 

[ScottMarlowe]

The string throughs for the two middle strings are WAY too close to the bridge, so there's no way they're not hitting the back of the bridge. Which is a big nono to me. Would pass unless I played it and fell madly in love.

 

[eS.G.]

the more I look and the more I dig the more this thing stinks I really think someone is trying to pass off China guitars as custom luthier specials

 

[syscokid]

The name Russell Lee Davis as a luthier, pops up in a couple MLP threads and in a Hamer forum thread. What they have in common is that Mr RLD was active building about 10 years ago, and was charging for his builds $3000+.

 

[syscokid]

This is at a motorcycle forum. Scroll about 3/4's down and look for a member named Scooter:
http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/threads/guitar-pics.30610/

 

[Biddlin]

"Luthier" built guitars are worth what you can get for them. I had a very nice 5/8 size 12 string made by a guy named Dave for his wife, who left him before it was finished. I paid about $200 for it which was no doubt less than he had put into it. A few years later a bass player I was working with played it and fell in love, trading his 1968 Buick wagon and a Squier Strat for it. My neighbor had a dreadnought acoustic made for him by a well respected luthier in Oregon, paid north of $3k for it and to my mind it doesn't sound or play quite as well as a good entry level Taylor or Martin. In this category of guitar, if you are buying to play, you have to try it out in person. BTW, I hate working on one offs. Without the blueprints and build notes, it's like archeology.